[問卦] reddit:台灣人沒想像中的友善 職場很可怕

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有網友問
是什麼讓台灣人友善
What makes taiwanese people friendly?
從小有被灌輸什麼人生哲學嗎
Is there an underlying philosophy taught since young?

網友回答

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作為一個外國人,台灣有很「好客」的文化,超出我待過的其他地方
人們很慷慨,願意花錢或花時間幫我,並拒絕回報,只表示「以後在你的國家招待我吧」
As a foreign visitor I've found Taiwan has a strong "hospitality" culture,
more than anywhere else I've visited. People have been generous both spending
their time to help out or show me round but also spent money and refused to
let me pay them back. They just said "if I ever visit your country, you can
do the same for me".

很多人忽略了,好客很棒,人們友善地幫你
在職場上完全相反,很多同事超級沒安全感
會盡力讓他們自己看上去比你好,沒有團隊精神
That's the thing people seem to miss. Hospitality is great, where people are
supposed to be friendly they tend to go over and above what you get in other
places.
The corporate environment is not like that at all, completely opposite where
a lot of them are super insecure and will do everything they can them look
better than you. Not team players at

有時候在這裡生活 精神上有很大壓力,讓我覺得這裡有很多雙面人,在公開場合很假
台灣人在職場和公開場合是兩種不同的經驗
每個國家都有「很假的人」,但我覺得台灣人在公開場合的友善過譽了
會讓你被第一次的職場經驗給嚇到
And that's what makes living here mentally challenging sometimes. Made me
feel like there's a lot of two faced people, or that they were being too fake
in public. Taiwanese at work and Taiwanese in public are two totally
different experiences.
There are "fake people" and such in every country, but I feel like the
friendliness in public is so overboard that it's kind of shocking the first
time you experience the corporate environment.

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對誰友善?菲律賓人?印尼人?黑人?白人旅客?看他們跟誰互動吧?
Friendly to whom? Filipinos? Indonesians? Black people? White tourists? A lot
depends on who they are interacting with

https://i.imgur.com/IMW6Lrb.png

在熱帶國家的人通常會比較「友善」
但我看來?台灣人的友善很表面,只有在短時間的互動才會發生
People in places with warmer climates tend to be more "friendly".
But in my honest opinion? Taiwanese people are only friendly on the surface
level and only if you interact with them for a short period of time.

https://i.imgur.com/guOv3ds.png


我覺得你的經驗不一樣,我不是白人也不是東亞人,我在這裡的時間,
也沒遇到一般白人會有的友善
我沒有感受之前在希臘和哥倫比亞得到的友善

I think your mileage may vary. I am not white and not east Asian. I haven't
felt the friendliness in my time here that, for example, a white tall blond
American would receive. My experience here doesn't approach the friendliness
I felt in places like Greece or Colombia.

作為一個高大的金髮美國人,我會說台灣人「友好」但不會說他們「友善」
例如我的同事都「友好」,會幫我找東西或翻譯但他們不是我的朋友
且經常拒絕的我的邀約,例如晚餐、喝咖啡、去看展等等
每個人在這座島上都覺得我不會講中文,跟之前在中國有的大量友善交流不同
,在這裏不會發生
如果要說有什麼不同的話,這裡的人是遇過最內向的地方之一
Even as a tall blond American although I'd call the Taiwanese "nice" I
wouldn't call them "friendly." i.e. although my coworkers are "nice" and will
help me look something up or translate a Chinese word they sure as hell
aren't my friends and have turned down every invitation to get dinner,
coffee, go to an art gallery, etc. Everyone on this island just assumes I
don't speak Mandarin so the multitude of friendly convos I'd have with
strangers like I would in China just don't happen here. If anything this has
been one of the more introverted distanced places I've ever lived or visited.

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有些人會直接問我「台灣人是世界上最友善的人吧?你同意嗎?
但我反問他們為何沒次我過馬路時,他們企圖把我撞死
我只會得到「我們也不喜歡那樣,但你同意台灣人是世界最友善的吧?
好像是跟遊戲中的NPC對話
Some people I meet just ask me straight up "Taiwanese are the friendliest
people in the world right? You agree with that right?"
When I ask them if they are so friendly why do they try to mow me down when I
cross the road I get just the "Oh we don't like that either but you agree
that Taiwanese are the friendliest in the world?"
Like talking to NPC in a game.

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